STUFF Will not Fill Your Holes, with Tracy McCubbin


Tracy is the founder and CEO of dClutterfly—a corporation and decluttering firm in Los Angeles, California. Which suggests—she has been within tons of of properties and helped 1000’s of individuals with their litter.  

She’s additionally the creator of two stunning books: 

My private favourite a part of her bio: “Tracy lives in Los Angeles and is aware of the place her keys are.” (Not everybody can say that!) 

Welcome, Tracy!

Are We In a Muddle Disaster?

Erica: As somebody who runs a decluttering firm, I’d love so that you can assist us get a way of the litter concern we’re going through. The explanation I ask it is because I’ve talked for years concerning the impression of decluttering and minimalism, and I believe plenty of my listeners are on board. However I ponder in case your perspective may assist us zoom out a bit and actually SEE what’s occurring in our properties and our nation when it comes to litter. 

Will you inform us a bit about what you’re seeing? 

Tracy: We’re in a litter disaster. Majority of individuals don’t personal their stuff. They’re owned BY their stuff. Check out the hundred billion greenback storage unit trade. I’ve been in 1000’s of storage models and I can inform you that I’ve by no means been in a single the place the objects within the unit value greater than the value of paying to retailer them. It’s so the other way up. Solely 25% of Individuals can park their vehicles of their storage, folks have rooms of their properties they will’t use. There’s simply a lot stuff.

I believe what occurred through the pandemic is that whereas spending extra time in our properties, many people realized our properties weren’t working for us. So folks actually received on board with decluttering throughout that point, however there was a chunk that was not connecting.

If you wish to actually stay with much less stuff, you must take a look at the acquisition cycle.

You must take a look at what you might be bringing in. So many individuals on this decluttering dialog have solely been speaking concerning the letting go half, and never the bringing in half.

We’re all stewards of our stuff and since it has gotten really easy to build up, all of us have an excessive amount of of it. And we do need to ask ourselves, “After I throw issues out, the place is it going?”

After I work with purchasers, I take the whole lot out of their home and put it into an enormous warehouse earlier than deciding what to convey again in. From what stays, we type out what will be donated. I strive my greatest to search out locations the place objects will be repurposed or reused, however nonetheless SO a lot simply has to go to the dump.

I discuss concerning the Donation Delusion in my second e book. Individuals justify shopping for stuff with the concept that they’ll simply donate it later. However donating makes use of sources too. So we’ve to start out interested by extra than simply decluttering, but in addition concerning the broader value of accumulating stuff.

What Holes Are We Making an attempt to Fill With Our Stuff?

Erica: I LOVE that you simply discuss concerning the emotional layer of decluttering, particularly in your newest e book, Make Area for Happiness. In my very own work, I’ve seen that until folks discover readability on WHY they acquire and preserve litter, it’ll simply preserve coming again. 

While you dig deep together with your purchasers, what are among the holes that we’re making an attempt to fill with STUFF? 

Tracy: Yeah, we undoubtedly use stuff or the fun of buying stuff to fill these holes or items of our lives that we are able to’t appear to fill in different methods. Loneliness, lack of social connection (an enormous one beginning in 2020), low shallowness, want for love, boredom.

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How Do We Search for Function Via Our Stuff?

Erica: One among your litter magnets is Actual Function. Because the phrase “function” is actually within the title of this podcast, I assumed I’d ask—

How will we use STUFF in a (probably misguided) try to search out function? What does that appear like? 

Tracy: It’s so fascinating how this litter magnet exhibits up in our lives. Facet hustles are actually the brand new manner on social media to point out we’re actually going after our ardour or function. The place as soon as, being an upstanding member of the neighborhood was sufficient function. We would merely volunteer on the library or church or present up for a neighborhood clear up undertaking, however we’ve someway determined that wasn’t sufficient. That we aren’t sufficient if we’re not doing increasingly more. Now, everybody appears to be an influencer or have an Etsy store or makes cupcakes on the facet. That is what we’ve turned function into.

However function is a mixture of what good we do on the planet, how productive we really feel, and what makes us completely happy. We’re so leaned into this concept of a facet hustle or being extra, however possibly simply taking a stroll on the weekend makes you content. And also you don’t have to purchase or purchase something for that.

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Make Area for Happiness

Erica: Placing litter apart, what’s one factor we are able to do to convey extra happiness into our lives right this moment? 

Tracy: Right here is the best factor we are able to do to alter our acquisition cycle proper now. As an alternative of claiming, “I want a brand new pair of denims,” change it to “I desire a new pair of denims.” And infrequently occasions whenever you acknowledge that it’s truly a need and never a necessity, it can go away. You would possibly look in your closet and see 10 pairs of denims and go “Oh, yeah. I believe I’m good on denims.” We are able to change our conduct by altering our language.

One other approach to convey extra happiness into our life, is to go do one thing good for anyone else. It can elevate your dopamine and make you are feeling good if you happen to’re feeling a little bit down. It may be as little as returning the cart for somebody on the grocery retailer.

Erica: What’s one merchandise in your house that you simply’ll by no means half with?

Tracy: My husband to be!


A giant due to Tracy McCubbin for sharing her years of decluttering expertise with us!

As Tracy and I talked about on this episode, you’ll by no means actually free your self of litter till you dig into the emotional component—till you recognize your why. 

I occur to have a free worksheet that will help you uncover yours! It’s known as, “Digging Deep: A Worksheet to Assist You Discover Your Relationship with Muddle So You Can Lastly LET GO,” and you’ll obtain it HERE.


Extra from Episode 48 of “Life On Function with Erica Layne”

Right here’s what else you’ll be able to hear within the newest episode of the podcast!

  • Attempt-On Session: A phase the place I suggest a brand new thought you’ll be able to strive on for dimension. Right this moment’s thought: I’m so pleased with myself!

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